interviews
Steve O'Rourke 12/19/95
phonecall on the Enigma
by Sean Heisler (short version)
februari 1995
introduction
Here is a conversation Sean Heisler had with Steve O'Rourke on 12/19/95 regarding the Publius Enigma. Thanks to Steve for his time.
The interview
SO=Steve O'Rourke
SM=Sean HeislerQ: Frankly we in the newsgroup are still trying to figure out this puzzle. And obviously you guys have stopped posting, we ah....just don't know if we should keep going?
A: We never posted. Ever, ever, ever. It didn't emanate from us, we never posted, I don't know.
Q: How about when you told Marc to project those signals at the concerts?
A: Told Marc to project signals?
Q: In the lights.
A: That's news to me. [laughter] Marc wasn't even there when those signals were projected, his wife was ill, he wasn't even there.
Q: Right, he missed the first one, but he was at the Earl's Court projection.
A: No, no.
Q: Do you then know of any "puzzle" at all -- if you are not affiliated with it at all do you know if there is a sort of a puzzle?
A: I'm sure that someone will get to it at the end.
Q: So there is some sort of a puzzle?
A: I'm sure, I'm sure that someone will get somewhere at the end of it.
Q: At the end of it?
A: Yes, I'm sure someone will. It seems to me there's far too much ah, going on in this, for it to be of no value whatsoever. I am sure there is something at the end of it. However, I do know that Pink Floyd, myself, or Marc Brickman...
Q: Or Nick Mason?
A: Have nothing -- or Nick Mason -- have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Q: Really.
A: Right.
Q: So is it fair to say maybe we should keep discussing it in the newsgroup? Maybe we should keep analyzing?
A: I mean ah, there are people very close to me that are... [laughter]
Q: Oh really. Have you read any, or much of the newsgroup yourself?
A: Yeah, oh yeah. I'm well aware of all of it.
Q: Really. Some of the analyzing...
A: Someone very close to me, keeps me up to date on it.
Q: Really... [laughter] Can you make any sense of it yourself Steve?
A: Ah, I try not to. [laughter]
Q: I was thinking Steve, that you were going to say it was all a joke and that would be the end of it.
A: [laughing] Well if I felt that I would tell you that.
Q: But it didn't emanate from some sort of encryptionist in Washington D.C. and you took the idea, and...
A: No.
Q: Nothing like that at all.
A: No... Well not to my knowledge anyway. All right, I mean saying "no" as if to say that I have some other knowledge. I have no knowledge of the fact -- if it did you know more than I do. [laughter]
Q: So in other words there wasn't any sort of a conscious effort among Pink Floyd as they recorded The Division Bell, they never put any sort of a puzzle in it -- within the music and lyrics and the artwork?
A: They may have done, but they haven't told me about it... but that wouldn't be the first time that they haven't told me something. [laughter] Anyway... Listen, have a good Christmas and keep plugging away...
Q: Keep plugging away?
A: [laughter]
Q: I will.
A: OK.
Q: I appreciate it Steve.
A: Alright, bye.
march 1995
