Here is a conversation Sean
Heisler had with Steve O'Rourke on 12/19/95 regarding the Publius Enigma.
Thanks to Steve for his time.
Q: Frankly we in the newsgroup
are still trying to figure out this puzzle. And obviously you guys have
stopped posting, we ah....just don't know if we should keep going?
A: We never posted. Ever,
ever, ever. It didn't emanate from us, we never posted, I don't know.
Q: How about when you told
Marc to project those signals at the concerts?
A: Told Marc to project signals?
Q: In the lights.
A: That's news to me. [laughter]
Marc wasn't even there when those signals were projected, his wife was
ill, he wasn't even there.
Q: Right, he missed the first
one, but he was at the Earl's Court projection.
A: No, no.
Q: Do you then know of any
"puzzle" at all -- if you are not affiliated with it at all
do you know if there is a sort of a puzzle?
A: I'm sure that someone
will get to it at the end.
Q: So there is some sort
of a puzzle?
A: I'm sure, I'm sure that
someone will get somewhere at the end of it.
Q: At the end of it?
A: Yes, I'm sure someone
will. It seems to me there's far too much ah, going on in this, for
it to be of no value whatsoever. I am sure there is something at the
end of it. However, I do know that Pink Floyd, myself, or Marc Brickman...
Q: Or Nick Mason?
A: Have nothing -- or Nick
Mason -- have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Q: So is it fair to say maybe
we should keep discussing it in the newsgroup? Maybe we should keep
A: I mean ah, there are people
very close to me that are... [laughter]
Q: Oh really. Have you read
any, or much of the newsgroup yourself?
A: Yeah, oh yeah. I'm well
aware of all of it.
Q: Really. Some of the analyzing...
A: Someone very close to
me, keeps me up to date on it.
Q: Really... [laughter] Can
you make any sense of it yourself Steve?
A: Ah, I try not to. [laughter]
Q: I was thinking Steve,
that you were going to say it was all a joke and that would be the end
A: [laughing] Well if I felt
that I would tell you that.
Q: But it didn't emanate
from some sort of encryptionist in Washington D.C. and you took the
Q: Nothing like that at all.
A: No... Well not to my knowledge
anyway. All right, I mean saying "no" as if to say that I
have some other knowledge. I have no knowledge of the fact -- if it
did you know more than I do. [laughter]
Q: So in other words there
wasn't any sort of a conscious effort among Pink Floyd as they recorded
The Division Bell, they never put any sort of a puzzle in it -- within
the music and lyrics and the artwork?
A: They may have done, but
they haven't told me about it... but that wouldn't be the first time
that they haven't told me something. [laughter] Anyway... Listen, have
a good Christmas and keep plugging away...
Q: Keep plugging away?
Q: I will.
Q: I appreciate it Steve.
A: Alright, bye.